Hey Innovators!
Welcome to "Next Future Today," where we shine a light on the people creating the future—by design, not by accident.
In this episode, host Dan Keldsen sits down with Larry Gioia, the emerging technology leader at PwC’s Commercial Technology Innovation Office.
Together, they dive deep into the real world of purposeful innovation, breaking down how a culture of trust and empowerment at a company known for caution and regulation can foster breakthrough ideas.
You’ll hear Larry Gioia share insights from his journey as a technologist, entrepreneur, and leader at PwC, discussing how innovation is democratized across a global firm encouraging contributions from brand new associates to senior partners. The episode unpacks topics like reverse mentorship, agency and adaptability in the age of AI, and why building trust (not just moving fast and breaking things) is crucial for focused, impactful innovation.
Whether you’re an innovation leader, a front-line employee, or simply curious about the strategies behind organizational transformation, this conversation is packed with stories, frameworks, and candid lessons that will inspire you to take action and help shape the next future, starting today.
Historical view of PwC’s reputation: from accounting to innovation
Discussion about how innovation is expected from all employees, not just a dedicated group of "mad scientists"
The cultural shift towards democratizing innovation within the firm
"Big I" vs. "small i" innovation: disruptive breakthroughs vs. continuous improvement
Technology, business model, and product innovation
The importance of trust in driving innovation
Empowering people through agency and autonomy (inspired by Dan Pink’s "Drive": autonomy, mastery, purpose)
Change management challenges—how people react to change, especially unexpected changes in their job roles
The role of leadership in building trust during transformations (especially in the age of AI)
Giving employees decision rights, guardrails, and support to innovate
Two-way doors concept: reversible vs. irreversible decisions in innovation
Striking a balance between moving fast and maintaining organizational trust
Reference to the bell curve of innovation adoption (Crossing the Chasm, diffusion of innovation)
Risks of non-adoption: falling behind as the world continues to move forward
Strategies for accommodating different levels of innovativeness across teams
Rejecting the idea of a siloed innovation "incubator"
Encouraging input from all levels, from new associates to senior partners
The importance of reverse mentorship: blending fresh perspectives with experienced insights
Value of reverse mentoring in driving innovation
How young employees contribute new ideas while learning from established experts
The dual benefit of mentorship for both junior and senior staff
AI as an amplifier of human capabilities rather than a replacement
Changing talent marketplace and ongoing hiring from campuses
Freeing up employees’ time via innovation and automation so they can focus on higher-value tasks and personal lives
Challenges of maintaining focus in innovation projects
Dangers of unfocused "go innovate!" initiatives
Structured innovation through frameworks: art, science, and luck
Methodologies for strategic foresight and pattern recognition
Multiple horizons for innovation:
Horizon 3: Long-term perspectives and themes (2-3+ years out)
Horizon 2: Emerging signals and proof-of-concept projects
Hands-on prototyping and rapid iteration to prove ideas
Creating internal communities (e.g., RD forum) and opening participation to the entire firm
Measuring success through engagement and scaling innovation interest
Publishing thought leadership, fostering organic reach throughout the organization
Moving from two-week to one-week sprints in development cycles
Accepting failure and broken tests as part of the process
"Show it, don’t tell it" mentality; demonstrate value through action
Using internal innovation as a case study to drive client engagement
Bridging the gap between technology and business, acting as translators between domains
Empowering clients to accelerate their own innovation cycles by learning from PwC’s experiences
Intentional upskilling and team architecture for diversity of thought
Value of backgrounds outside traditional technology (e.g., English majors, statisticians)
Importance of bringing together people with different expertise for better innovation outcomes
Relevance (and perceived "out of fashion") of design thinking at PwC
Tension between product, UX, and engineering teams when delivering innovation
Central question: are you building for people, and will they use it?
"Art of the possible" vs. "what’s probable" in the age of AI
Recommendation to bring teams together in person to accelerate finding actionable, probable solutions
Real-world collisions and collaboration as accelerators of innovation
Infocap AI Corp: bringing human-centric automation to life in Federal Agencies, the US Military, and Large Organizations across the US.
Your host, Dan Keldsen, Chief Innovation Officer at Infocap AI Corp
Today's Guest, Larry Gioia, Emerging Technology Leader in PwC’s Commercial Technology Innovation Office (CTIO)
Stay curious, stay grounded, and as always, let’s build the future, one pragmatic step at a time.
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Until next time,
The NextFutureToday Team at infocap.ai - the Human-Centric Automation Company
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